Thursday, June 11, 2009

The Nostalgia Critic: Bad for Everyone

Our astute, genius-level intellect readers no doubt recognize that we're not the only game in town when it comes to campy, cheesy, or otherwise bad movies. Probably the biggest game in town right now is the "Nostalgia Critic," a character, a web-site and practically a brand-name created by Doug Walker to cash in on a whole generation of people with warm, fuzzy memories of crappy movies. It's unfortunate that Nostalgia Critic sucks. Don't believe me? See for yourself.



Please note that you don't have to watch this if you don't have 15 minutes of your life to waste.

First of all, he's doing this backwards. His motto: "I remember it, so you don't have to," sets out his faulty mission statement in an easy to remember sound byte. His whole deal is mocking something you remember or at least know of but haven't seen in two decades. He makes jokes about how bad a movie is without really reviewing it, and the goal is apparently for you, the reader, to not watch the movie. That's stupid. We here at Your Stupid Minds want people to watch bad movies, to love bad movies, and to laugh at bad movies. But please don't post 15 minute videos of yourself mocking the bad movie while showing off your improv skills.

What really bugs me in a review like the one posted above might not be what you think. Yes, his jokes are bad, and despite like ten jokes about how gay He-Man is, most of his videocaptures really aren't any more homoerotic than Star Wars. It's not the incredibly lame attempt at political humor. It's not even that he has the name of the movie wrong and feels the need to explain that He-Man, in fact, had a cartoon. Seriously as much as I don't respect Ben Lyons, at least he doesn't give us FIFTEEN MINUTES of him driving home while he talks about movies he just saw.

No, what bugs me is how this guy feels like he has to be the star of the fucking show. Instead of laughing at the movie's shortcomings, we're supposed to laugh at this douchebag's capering? Why on earth does this guy feel the need to add sound effects, canned laughter, and pictures of John McCain for what's being called a "film review"?

Even more insufferable are all the other characters this guy plays: in "Bum Reviews," Doug plays Chester A. Bum, a loud, wig-wearing guy whose 'jokes' consist almost entirely of incredibly clichéd non-sequiturs. In "Ask That Guy," he plays an upper-class, loud guy whose 'jokes' consist almost entirely of clichéd non-sequiturs. There's a pattern here, but I can't quite grasp it.

I get that all of these creations are characters created by Doug Walker to give him some measure of celebrity on the Internet, but what bugs me is that he's done it at the expense of movies I like.

But even that would be forgivable if he was actually funny. But he just isn't. Try to sit through this. I dare you.



It's just painful to see him try to play a different character but then immediately fall back into his nostalgia critic voice, but without all the editing and gimmickry that attempts to hide his total inability to deliver a joke. This thing was only about six minutes but it felt like roughly infinity minutes because it was so goddamn awkward and flat-out bad. It was so bad even his private cheerleading squad recognized a misfire. Bad movies are the crutch this guy uses to hide his inability to entertain, and by making fun of them with himself as the feature attraction he's made a series of unwatchable, shitty reviews based on campy movies. Frankly, campy movies deserve better.

Don't get me wrong: making fun of bad movies is great. We all have fond memories of MST3K, but the robots and the human were in the audience, they weren't the goddamn stars.

To summarize: The Nostalgia Critic sucks. I'm glad there's a popular outlet for cheesy, campy, and otherwise bad movies, but I wish it was actually good. I'd settle for watchable.

175 comments:

  1. I got through 1:48 of that Joker thing.

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  2. i got through all the joker thingie

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  3. Omg thank you. I feel vindicated. So many fanboys and fangirls that one begins to lose one's faith in humankind. Such a relief to know that not everyone is a complete retard.

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  4. "What bugs me is that he's done it at the expense of movies I like." -this is where you lose your credibility.

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  5. No, my precious, precious credibility! Oh wait. This is a BAD MOVIE site. Our domain is from an Ed Wood movie.

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  6. You like movies. You make me sick.

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  7. The Nostalgia Critic is awesome, and if you don't like him there's like twenty other people with videos on his site (that are not him).

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  8. He does suck, and so do his sycophants.
    He takes something we may not have seen in a long time and forces us to see it through "shit colored glasses", and of course he ruins it for newer audiences by giving them pre-existing, biased notions about a film.

    The same goes for Spoony; his annoying fanboys with gay crushes on him truly irk someone gifted like myself. Dare to insinuate that Final Fantasy VIII had a single entertaining moment in it? God help you if you point out that the draw system is made easier if one turns the battle speed up and that the player isn't a complete pussy.

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    1. Hey,FUCK YOU! He is there to make jokes,only that,if you don't agree with him,oh wait there is no IF you just dont,therefore SOMEFUCKINGHOW you are allowed to judge him by his hatred towards what you like. There you are fucking stupid! He does not FORCE his opinion,oh look YOU ARE FORCING YOUR FUCKING OPINION! FUCK YOU GO TO HELL OPINION HATER THAT DOESNT GET NC IS ONLY THERE TO MAKE JOKES! Ugh,idiot.

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    2. I can't understand what the fuck you're saying but Doug Walker is aloud to present his opinion through an obnoxious unfunny mess of a character and this guy isn't? Something tells me you're a TGWTG fanboy.

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  9. You need to keep in mind, that he's not always about always ranting on Bad Movies, most of the
    time he'll make a review based on the Top 10 best things, or compare the old stuff to the new stuff.

    Besides, he still gives credit to movies
    that try, no matter how bad they are.

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  10. I don't care if you think he's funny or not. You
    fail to see the point I was trying to make.

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  11. Yeah, he's just awful. Guess that's why TGWTG.com has become an internet household name, while you struggle to entertain the ten-something people who actually bother with your pretentious little blog.

    Have a super day.

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  12. What exactly is an "internet household?"

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  13. Pretentious? How are we pretentious Nick? Maybe anonymous can explain?

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  14. Are you kidding? He is one of the best reviewers ever!

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  15. I took your dare to watch that whole video. Thanks for ruining my life.

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  16. Doug Walker and the entire Channel Awesome crew does indeed suck. The sheer arrogance they all display on that site is vomit inducing, it's like they put on a video and invite all the retard fan-boys to bow down and worship them.

    They fail to see that they are ONLY internet celebrities, which means they are two steps below Danny Bonaduce and Clint Howard.

    Great blog! Anyone who can't stand those jerks is a-okay in my book.

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  17. I fail to see how the Nostalgia Critic sucks or is un-funny. There were several of his videos where I had to pause so I didn't miss anything because I was laughing so hard.

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  18. Could you post some examples of specific things in Nostalgia Critic that you find funny?

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  19. Some of his reviews that I found to be quite funny are his reviews of Batman and Robin, Sidekicks, Good Burger, Judge Dredd, and his Top Eleven F*ck Ups.

    Check 'em out.

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  20. I mean actual moments/jokes in the reviews you find funny.

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  21. Just typing out the jokes would never be able to do them justice. You just have to watch.

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  22. Tell me which jokes to watch and I'll watch them.

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  23. "Why on earth does this guy feel the need to add sound effects, canned laughter, and pictures of John McCain for what's being called a "film review"?"

    Maybe because it's not intended to be a legitimate review and is purely made for entertainment purposes? I would've thought that was obvious. He clearly doesn't take himself seriously as the character or a reviewer, as shown when he does videos of just himself.

    He even insinuates that people shouldn't take him seriously and that they should trust people with expertise in his Top 11 Fuck-ups video. He's not trying to force people to "bow down" to him or even to force them not to see a movie he may hate.

    Yes, his over the top humor may not be for you, and he does have his weaker episodes, but that doesn't make him not funny, just not what you like.

    But, really, he's not losing any sleep because someone doesn't like him, rendering all of this pointless bullshit.

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  24. Wow are your reading comprehension skills that terrible or did you just read the bit you quoted and stop? Here, lemme quote myself: " get that all of these creations are characters created by Doug Walker to give him some measure of celebrity on the Internet, but what bugs me is that he's done it at the expense of movies I like." So it's not that I don't understand what the guy is doing, I know exactly what it's doing. I just don't like it, because it is not well done. My point is not "these are failures as legitimate critical reviews," my point is that Doug Walker is a hack (who has made thousands of dollars primarily through pretty questionable use of copyrighted material).

    "He's not trying to force people to "bow down" to him or even to force them not to see a movie he may hate."

    Then why does he have a legion of mindless zombies who think they need to be the humor police? Why is his catchphrase "I remember it so you don't have to?" One of the major components of 'fair use' is the effect on the market. Do you really think he is doing the market any favors when a review using extensive footage and giving away the story is combined with a few "this is SO STUPID"s and a bunch of call-back jokes to an original idea the NC might have had 6 months ago? "Ooh I'd better go buy Labyrinth now so I can appreciate its big-lipped alligator moments!"

    My purpose in this review was pointing out that this guy who has somehow managed to get a fair amount of attention (he is an "internet household name" after all) is objectively terrible. Not in a "oh, his humor is not for you" way, but in a "shouting and incessant references with no substantial JOKE within the reference" does not make for good comedy, because it doesn't.

    Seriously the number of vapid anonymous "hey this person doesn't like the terrible shit that I like" comments is really tempting me to put up a new rant about how 'cult TV' deserves its name.

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  25. 'he feels like he has to be the star f the show etc etc' presumes the shows format was obvious. It's just a guy having fun, just like this ite, and just like any site that purposely reviews terrible movies.

    It's just supposed to be light, although somewhat mature(language wise) entertainment. To give it any credit above that just shows you're missing the point. However, while his jokes don't always hit home he puts on a good effort and compared to alot of the homemade entertainment that's out there it's remarkably high quality. He clearly puts alot of effort in which is commendable.

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  26. No, I think he is not for you, your saying that no one finds him funny, if he wasn't funny to some he wouldn't be where he is.

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  27. I really don't appreciate how when you say:

    "But even that would be forgivable if he was actually funny. But he just isn't."

    you procede to post what is widely regarded even by his hardcore fans to be his worst, most unfunny video. Did you even watch his other videos?

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  28. I'm still waiting for those funny jokes.

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  29. Sidekicks review:

    The jokes from 7:14-8:05 and 8:37-9:41 and 11:20 -11:28

    Those are just a few. I'll post more later.

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  30. If they're just as funny as those clips then you might want to wait a little while. I had to go to the hospital after busting so many guts.

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  31. Nick don't be mean: since the thesis was that NC is terrible let's look at why those examples prove NC is terrible.

    First, the actual clips from the movie are the best parts of all those clips referenced. Remember, this is a movie we don't have to remember: thanks, NC!

    Second, what are the jokes? In the first clip mentioned, NC doesn't make a joke, but he does kind of flail around, then references Star Wars. Everything about that movie is funny! The second clip I don't even remember what joke he made, other than some observations that an Asian mentor figure in a movie is a living saint. Isn't that always the way? Finally, we get a clip of Chuck Norris and that kid ordering milk and then a Chuck Norris joke about it. Chuck Norris jokes are timeless!

    Seriously how does this not confirm that the movies he's telling us not to remember are infinitely more entertaining than he is?

    Other things I learned from this review: Danica McKellar is hot.

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  32. Dobson, I think that the real problem here is your definition of a joke. I could understand that you might not find a joke funny, everything that I consider humorous might be different from the next guy, but you seem to have a complete inability to identify a joke or are just unwilling to accept something as funny.

    On that note, everything in Star Wars is funny? That movie didn't really come off as a comedy if you ask me.

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  33. Anonymous, are your reading facilities really that deficient? A "complete inability to identify a joke"? Are there secret jokes in the clips you showed that aren't lame Chuck Norris jokes, lame Karate Kid-ish jokes, or lame Star Wars references? Does the man in the video speak directly to you? Does he use your name? Does he tell you where to get the fire?

    Also, re: Star Wars. It's another example of people talking over your head, I guess. You see, Star Wars is a movie a lot of people saw. By making a reference to it that isn't really funny in of itself, people will react "AHAHAHA STAR WARS" instead of recognizing that what they just heard isn't independently funny. For like a thousand more examples, watch any episode of Family Guy, but especially that Blue Harvest episode. It's bad reference comedy: good for you if you still find it funny, but I can't get to that point until I hit myself with a hammer at least five times.

    Again, the point that you appear to be going out of your way to miss is that the movies are better than he is, but by taking a "ha ha this is STUPID" approach, NC tries to put himself over movies that are more entertaining than him.

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  34. I'm getting a little confused on your point about the movies being more entertaining than he is. Are you saying that the movies themselves are more entertaining, or that they are more appealing to look than the shots of the NC in the clips I mentioned earlier?

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  35. Frankly, getting this upset over an internet star is completely ridiculous. While your at it, there's also the angry video game nerd. He's also pretty popular and isn't that much different than NC. Also, if you know the youtube crowd, what do most people who watch youtube want to see? Stupid, brainless humor. Most rather see someone get kicked in the nuts rather than some thought provoking joke or comedy.

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  36. TBF, I only heard of this website today, so I can't help but feel there's some jealousy going on here. The person you're attacking is just a nice guy trying to entertain, you don't have to agree with him and he acknowledges he's not perfect. If you're going to be a snob, go wail on Chris-Chan.

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  37. If we get enough pissed off NC fans over here then we'll really become an Internet household name.

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  38. I see...
    Trolling, are we?..
    Trying to big yourself up with more viewers?..
    Using our fragile minds to give more power to your patheitc lives?..
    Then I have this to say to you, Nick Nobel: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Q_pZ3exAk0&feature=related
    And to Dobson himself: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rp_IFSBIak4&NR=1

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  39. Oh well you win the argument now.

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  40. Yes, trolling our own domain. How are you even finding this page? We're not linking you to it, are we? Why do you even care what we think?

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  41. If there is an opinion on the internet, then as long as there is Google, sooner or later, there will be a flame war.
    Seriously though, like they say, there are loads of other people on the internet you could be attacking now. The Nostalgia Critic isn't even serious about half the things he says in his reviews. He's a comedian first and foremost; he puts on the caustic critic persona for the lulz. The AVGN, however, just swears and makes potty jokes.

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  42. There are loads of other people on the internet you could be defending now.

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  43. "He's a comedian first and foremost"

    -Yes, and he's not good at it and is doing it by mocking bad movies.

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  44. Nick Nobel: I haven't found any other internet celebrities being attacked yet, simple as.

    Dobson: Like they said on March 3rd, no-brainer humor appeals to a lot of people on the net. Just because you don't find it funny, doesn't mean it's devoid of good humor (except for the Melvin Sketch).

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  45. Your definition of "attack" is SOOOOOO different from mine! (Mine recognizes that making fun of someone who sucks for their suckiness is not an "attack.")

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  46. If you're looking for backseat MST3K-style commentary, try giving this effort a chance, if only to compare and contrast.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Et9PTlTY40&feature=PlayList&p=7A5F26F9AA660B2F&index=0&playnext=1
    I like The Lion King as much as the next guy, but I couldn't help finding this hilarious.

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  47. aarondirebear said...

    He does suck, and so do his sycophants.
    He takes something we may not have seen in a long time and forces us to see it through "shit colored glasses", and of course he ruins it for newer audiences by giving them pre-existing, biased notions about a film.

    Anonymous said...

    Doug Walker and the entire Channel Awesome crew does indeed suck. The sheer arrogance they all display on that site is vomit inducing, it's like they put on a video and invite all the retard fan-boys to bow down and worship them.

    They fail to see that they are ONLY internet celebrities, which means they are two steps below Danny Bonaduce and Clint Howard.

    ~~~I couldn't have said it better myself.Being internet famous is like having a prolific high school football career, just like Al Bundy did...it doesn't mean shit in real life.

    Good article. My girlfriend started watching this guy, I had seen him fight the Angry Video Game Nerd (Another guy taken too seriously by fan boys...Aww, fanboys. They make things that are okay totally gay in a small amount of time...anyway) before, and didn't think he was worth watching. I was right. He rips on shit I actually enjoyed as a child. Leave the memories along, fuck head!!!

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  48. I meant, "Leave the memories alone, fuck head!!!"

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  49. Before I go on with my post, I would like to let you know Dobson, that I am a fan of the Nostaliga Critic. However, I will not be defending him in this post. I don't care what you think about my opinion on him, so I won't waste your time with it. I will be talking about how you made your critique of the Nostalgia Critic.

    First, is what you are criticizing the most in this review: the comedy, or lack thereof in your opinion. I find that comedy is virtually impossible to criticize as there are as many opinions on what is funny as there are people in the world. I know a lot of people that laugh at funerals yet are able to stay completely silent during a comedy film. All your review is really saying is that you don't find his videos humorous and use that as the base of you saying that the Nostalgia Critic is a bad series. There is no real reason provided as to why I should agree with you and besides, I highly doubt that your review is going to convince anyone to change their opinion on what is funny and what is not. Despite that though, you expect us to agree with you on that just because a person isn't funny in your opinion, that person sucks.

    That brings me to my next real problem is how seriously you take the Nostalgia Critic, yet how lightly you take yourself. In both the review itself and the comments to the review, you have made several references to the phrase "I remember it so you don't have to!". You take this as a message to the viewer as if it were the entire point of the review is to make the person hate the movie, when really it is just a catchy slogan. However, the title of your review is Nostalgia Critic: BAD FOR EVERYONE(I put that part in caps because I can't underline it). The word bad implies that the Nostalgia Critic is harmful or dangerous for the viewer to be watching, but you never make any argument as to why the Nostalgia Critic is harmful to the viewer. I, even as a fan of his, can come up with several reasons why the NC is a bad influence, like his swearing and his minor and indirect support of drug use. But you never make any arguments of the sort. If you are going to take the Nostalgia Critic so seriously as to criticize his slogan, then shouldn't we as your audience do the same of you? Thinking that you are actually going to provide some reason why we should think that the Nostalgia Critic should be banned from the internet? In my opinion the answer is yes, and you don't give and reason on that manner.

    I can understand that you may not like the Nostalgia Critic, I have several friends that don't like him and I'm okay with that. But if you want us to believe and agree with you, you need to make a fact based argument that will get us to hate the Nostalgia Critic on a somewhat personal level, which you fail to deliver. I don't hate you personally, you seem like a very intelligent and reasonable person, just get your priorities straight.

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  50. Anonymous 11:58, I'm not sure which of your misapprehensions needs to be corrected first. I don't hate the Nostalgia Critic, and I don't want anyone to hate him on a personal level. At all. AT ALL. Since that's not my goal, it's a little bizarre to be told that I "fail to deliver" or need to "get [my] priorities straight." My post fails at a lot of things that weren't my intent: for one thing, it's terrible free-verse poetry.

    You also don't even hold yourself to your completely arbitrary and unusual reading of my title, that based on it I want NC "banned from the internet." You're not even consistent in your own post on what "bad" means, so I'm confused how you seem to think it means I think he is literally a bad guy. I also like how criticizing his slogan is apparently taking something "too seriously." Do people not mean slogans? It's not like he's just shouting "Yabba Dabba Doo!": the words have meaning, and it's a meaning I think is backwards from what I want people on this site to do.

    As far as opinions and comedy, I hate the misapprehension on the internet that somehow all opinions are equally valid. Especially when I provide evidence! By definition, that means it's not just my opinion. It's right there in the post: I linked to painfully poor comedy! Others whined that it isn't "fair" to link to the worst thing the guy has done, but since my point is that he is a poor comedian, why wouldn't I? Also note that the weaknesses of his Joker comedy bit comes from his attempts to work without cuts every 5 seconds and to play a sustained character outside of his immediate comfort zone. That's how I build an argument that the NC is a very limited talent that uses bad movies to put himself over.

    But I am not saying that he is a bad person and you should hate him, or any other deranged goal read into the text based on a sliding definition of individual words.

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  51. First of all, I'd like to make one thing perfectly clear. There is no right or wrong answer on whether the Nostalgia Critic is funny or not. Comedy is purely opinionated and it solely depends on the receiver as to whether or not the joke is hilarious. As a fan of NS, I'm not here to convince you that he is funny. If you don't think he is funny, then that's fine with me. However I can't stand idly by, especially when your argument has some points that I'd like to counter.

    Firstly, the title of your blog entry bothers me. "The Nostalgia Critic: Bad for Everyone"? How so? You don't clearly state how he is "bad" and in what sense. If you're saying he is influences people negatively, then I'm sorry but that's not true at all. Not once did he promote crime or discrimination in any of his videos. Sure, he does do the odd drug joke every now and then, but he doesn't encourage people to do drugs. If you think he influences people to do any of the said above things, then show us proof. Also, if he gets mail from people who were offended by some of the jokes that he made (ie. the Mako incident), then the NS is polite enough to apologize to his viewers for his mistake. How can you say he is a bad person after that?

    If you're saying that he is "bad" because he is not funny, then I ask you to please change the title of this entry. A unfunny person does not equal a bad person. On the topic of "unfunniness", you really chose the worst examples of his videos to show as proof. Yes I'll admit, not all of his videos are hilarious. He does have his off days. This is clearly (and painfully) shown through one of his videos, Melvin the Joker. Interesting to note, the NS is actually personally ashamed of that video. Even he admits that was not one of his greatest moments. It was made a couple of years ago when he was still starting out. So honestly, you can't really blame him.

    One thing you said really bothered me. The NS is selfish and egotistical? Um, how? Yes he does joke about him "being Jesus" of his site, but he doesn't literally believe he is the next Messiah. And he doesn't force his viewers to bow down and worship him, so I really don't understand where you are going with that point. And he is the star of his own show. Would you not act the same way if you were doing a recorded review of your own show? Oh, and he is not a selfish person. His site does organize the occasional charity so he can give back to the public. So he is not a selfish person. Think I'm wrong? Prove it.

    So anyways, the bottom line is to not assume the worst about an internet celebrity if you don't think he's funny. Don't like his style of comedy? Fine. But don't call for the execution of his site. That's really uncalled for. That's like asking someone to close down their business just because you don't like their store's facade.

    I'm a supporter of the NS, and I hope you will understand what I'm trying to say. Please don't take my opinion the wrong way. I just wanted to make you think about re-phrasing your argument to make it stronger and more valid. :)

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  52. Gah, I apologize! In my post, I meant to say NC, not "NS". Sorry about that. -_-

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  53. Just to avoid confusion, anonymous 11:58 and anonymous 6:40 are not the same person. I am only saying this because the two arguments are very similar and so Dobson (hopefully) isn't as annoyed...

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  54. Could someone show me the section of the dictionary where the word "bad" is directly equated with drug use?

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  55. Bad:causing or liable to cause sickness or ill health; injurious or harmful.

    Drugs like cocaine, heroin(spelling?), crack, meth(spelling?), and marijuana are all referred to as "drugs" and all have been connected to physical and mental health issues.

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  56. What point are you even trying to make? Are you really that oblivious that you need someone to spell out the alternate definitions of "bad" for you? Here I'll use it in a sentence.

    You are bad at argument.

    I don't mean you use cocaine at argument. Nor do I intend to attack you on a personal level. I mean the words you have typed out on this comment page are not good. Deficient. Lacking. Inadequate. Poor. You misunderstand Dobson's argument, muddle your own point, repeat arguments made by other commenters, confound basic definitions of monosyllabic words, and fail to read or comprehend the entire article and the comments following it.

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  57. Reading over my previous post, I see that Dobson is right. I was inconsistent in my use of the word "bad" and I will try to clarify this now.

    While it can be determined that the initial article is attempting to make the argument that the Nostalgia Critic is "bad"(lacking, deficient, inadequate, poor) in his humor, this argument is never defined and, in my opinion, doesn't make a very strong argument. This is going back to my point on that humor isn't something that can be debated in any way. What I am pointing out is that there are different and more concrete ways that someone can call the Nostalgia Critic "bad". The example I used was his swearing and drug references that could potentially be a negative influence on today's youth. In my post, I got ahead of my self and started to use the definition of "bad" I intended to use before I fully explained myself. I understand the multiple definitions of "bad", I just happened to use the one I used in order to make my argument to the article we are all talking about.

    I hope this clears things up a bit.

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  58. If humor cannot be debated in any way then why are you seeking out opposing viewpoints and inciting debate? Also if you claim that bad is "never defined" in the article then you clearly need to read it again.

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  59. The reason I seek out opposing viewpoints to my own is because I can't stand people that just "go with the flow" and agree with everybody else. Like if I'm in a discussion with my friends on something and one of them says "Oh yeah, I agree," and never adds on to the current discussion. They say something simply for the sake of saying something, which highly annoys me. So, one day, I went looking for a negative opinion on the Nostalgia Critic to see if there were any people fighting against what I consider to be the general opinion of the Nostalgia Critic which at the moment is fairly positive.

    Thus I stumbled across this page and find exactly what I was looking for: a negative rant on the Nostalgia Critic and all, or maybe just most, of his videos. The only thing that disappointed me about this review was that it mainly focused on the comedy or lack thereof. While it was refreshing to see a negative opinion, I think that it could have been based on topics a little more concrete than humor.

    Hope that sheds a little light on why I do what I do.

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  60. I take no issue with fomenting discussion, but you do understand the fallacy of coming in to debate something and saying that "humor isn't something that can be debated in any way." That is patently false and the existence of your post disproves it.

    Also you went looking for opposing viewpoints and was disappointed when someone criticized the content? What were you hoping for exactly?

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  61. The reason that I posted here to begin with? That is difficult for me to explain in words. I'll get back to you on that.

    To explain my views on criticizing humor though, I'm going to need you to watch this video:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iC09gEnK8PA&feature=related

    Post back here when you have finished watching it and tell me your reaction and thoughts.

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  62. Okay! I'll post here the exact second I finish watching that!

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  63. Anonymous 6:40: "One thing you said really bothered me. The NS is selfish and egotistical?"

    I never said those things. Did anything else I didn't say get you really upset? But thanks for unverified information about charities he supports.

    "Fine. But don't call for the execution of his site. That's really uncalled for. That's like asking someone to close down their business just because you don't like their store's facade."

    More things I didn't say. It's like someone summed up this to you and you extrapolated the rest of the article.

    Anonymous 5:34, did you link to the wrong thing? Seriously what?

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  64. So I'll assume you watched the video I linked to Dobson? Oh, and no, I know exactly what I was linking to. I am using that video to make a point to Nick. For you, I suppose you could give me your opinion on it if you want.

    Do you?

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  65. Is the point that you've suffered some sort of head trauma that causes you to think linking to a newgrounds video says something important about your opinions? Seriously what do you want us to say about such a complete non-sequitur?

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  66. Since it seems I can't delay the explanation of linking to that video any longer lest you start to think I'm some sort of freak who doesn't have the slightest clue what I'm talking about, I should say why I put the video in my post.

    Among all of the words that you could use to describe that video, whether it be bloody, violent, chaotic, or pointless, would you ever at all think of using comedic as a word that you would use to describe the video? For me, the answer is yes. I think that we can all agree that animated people die in the video, right? Well then, what is so funny about people dying? I'm not going to go into the details as to why I find this video hilarious, but I do. I am using this video to make a statement here about how anything can be found funny by anyone for any reason.

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  67. Look, I'm not a psychiatrist, so I really don't want to hear about why you do the things you do on the internet or why you find violent cartoons hilarious.

    Your premises are still pretty seriously deficient. Absolutely anything can be funny, ESPECIALLY cartoon people dying. But the fact that you find some flash video funny doesn't mean that there's no way to evaluate comedy in any meaningful way, it just means you have really embarrassing taste.

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  68. Then I was to give you a random cartoon, film, or recording of a live performance, how would you evaluate the comedic value?

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  69. What on earth are you even trying to prove? That people can have different ideas of what is funny? That doesn't mean I can't talk about it, as 1) that is so obvious that it's not worth talking about, and 2) it has nothing to do with anything. See, in this article that I wrote, I offered evidence and explanation of the editing, length, and topic that makes the Nostalgia Critic not particularly good at what he does and further that he does it by bashing on films.

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  70. This video does a better job of explaining my feelings about your video.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eame263N0WY

    Please come back once you've watched all four and I'll offer my analysis.

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  71. Yes, I am trying to prove that people can have different ideas on what is funny. While you can say that you don't think the Nostalgia Critic is a good comedian, that doesn't mean that it is a convincing argument. What if the evidence backfires? What if someone looks at one of those videos and thinks that the Nostalgia Critic is a funny person and goes looking for more of his videos to watch. That defeats the entire purpose of your argument. That is what I'm trying to tell you. Just because you think he is unfunny doesn't mean that other people, who have never heard of the Nostalgia Critic will agree with you. Like you said, you provide evidence in the form of one of his videos. Those videos will speak for themselves rather than your argument to newcomers.

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  72. Again, if all I had was my opinion, maybe you'd be making a meaningful point. But you're not. Please stop.

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  73. Did you watch all those videos yet?

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  74. Indeed, he's not only a bad reviewer and entertainer, I was never able to finish one single of his "Reviews" frecuently I just stop them around 2 or 3 minutes, and that's a lot of time, it eventually feels like you are watching some retarded kid saying "WAH WAH I DONT LIKE THIS MOVIE!!!!111" Around 60 jokes he can throw only 1 or 2 are somewhat funny, which is pathetic.His bad acting is completely horrendous, I've never seen something this bad, maybe his Bum inpersonating is worse, but it makes it incredibly ironic when he mocks some bad actor when his acting is almost 20 times worse. Bottom line he's bad, well not only bad,
    really, really BAD.

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  75. He sucks so much, I am so thankful someone else sees this.

    Great site by the way! Your suggestions have been expanding my Netflix queue.

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  76. Thanks Polkster! We'll try to update a little more often.

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  77. You don't pick the worst examples to put your point across. If you can't show the best (i.e, most famous) examples, that should really be saying something. If this is how you attack a fellow online reviewer, I dread to think how you handle REALLY bad stuff on this site. But if you show the best examples and you still can't stand him, then for god's sake stop griping and watch something else.

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  78. You know what? Scratch that. All you critics do is pick out the worst parts and omit out the better bits. In that respect, you're not really much better than what Doug Walker is parodying. But the other point still stands; stop complaining and focus on other things. Maybe even watch Atop the 4th Wall, tell me what you think of that.

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  79. If someone can parse Asher's argument and translate it into something marginally coherent I will give you a pat on the back and a double thumbs up.

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  80. Are you trying to be ironic or are you completely unaware of the overwhelming hypocrisy that pervades every single word you've written?

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  81. I think what he is trying to say, is that by picking some of the nostalgia critic's worst known videos to make his point, Dobson's argument isn't valid or something.

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  82. Okay, I realize that I'm complaining about complaining. I just can't resist coming back to this site to see how you two flatten other people's perfectly valid arguments, and I thought I'd pitch in my two cents. Still though, before you respond to this post, have a look at this Atop the 4th Wall from start to finish, and tell me how it compares.
    http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/linkara/at4w/3252-superman-at-earths-end

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  83. Hey look I can post videos too.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJDQEPPd1jU

    Make sure you watch it. From start to finish.

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  84. Hate NC... quite a bit actually. The review of him was alright I suppose. However, the arguments conjured via Dobson and (more so) Nick are utter hilarity. I just love people whom resonate of pretentious mannerisms and emit an abundant of hypocrisy, then fail to see such. More so when the basal argument is built on top of the falterings of someone else.

    Most of the fanboys didn't do much better, but they are fanboys after all, and at least some of them made valid and logical points, though Dobson and Nick merely regarded it as stupidity rather then directly addressing most of the.

    I hope the rest of this site isn't like this page, though I shall go to see.

    SIDE NOTE - While I think NC is devoid of creating properly-formatted reviews and makes jokes that heavily rely on the usage of reference; NC is at least a talented actor whom can perpetuate a nice delivery. Perhaps this is where the predominant of his comedy derives from? Much alike Dane Cook in many regards, in which both use poor jokes, but have a presentation which leads to people finding the comedy factor.

    I am actually kind of wanting to know Nick and Dobson constitute as funny now. Still find their overall argument hilarious, but denying their intellectual value is something that can't be permitted.

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  86. I find it pretty ironic how the NC will rip on the jokes in other movies, but himself relies on shouting, bland pop culture references and poorly timed jokes that have been made cliche a hundred times over by people who have presented them better.

    I disagree as to why his presence is upsetting, though. The real reason is from an artistic stand point. I think people really need to search for something entertaining/funny. There's a lot of crap to sift through on youtube. But, it's too easy to go to thatguywiththeglasses.com and settle for a mediocre pastime just for the sheer volume of stuff they put out. It's not horrible on any side: that of the viewer or the producer. It's just kind of sad that people putting in real talent and effort aren't getting attention or funding. It's kind of like the Hollywood vs. No budget film situation.

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  87. "I just love people whom resonate of pretentious mannerisms and emit an abundant of hypocrisy..."

    Yeah me too! I love it when people resonate of pretentious mannerisms, no matter whom they are!

    Liz Leighton I agree with you that NC encourages mediocrity in his work and in his site, and the first sentence of your post pretty well sums up my thesis on the guy.

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  88. NC has a face I really want to hit. Also he isn't funny.

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  89. God, he pisses me off, I have to add more. Have you ever seen his Aristocrats joke? The lead in to it is pretty good, but once he starts actually telling the joke, and trying to be funny, he fails miserably.

    NC is one of those LOOK AT ME kind of guys. Whenever he acts angry during a review, his anger is totally unconvincing. Why watch a video of a guy playing clips from a movie and acting flustered, when you could watch something sweet like Red Letter Media, where it isn't only hilarious, but actually gives great critical analysis of films.

    I think the only reason the CIA stopped using waterboarding was that they discovered his voice, and realized that it was a much more effective tool for breaking detainee's will to live.

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  90. The Nostalgia Critic is a pathetic, unfunny loser. All the morons of That Guy with glasses site are just a bunch of unfunny morons that doesn´t deserve all the attention that they receive.
    None of his reviews made laugh. His jokes are bland, dumb and boring, just like him.

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  91. An argument built around the view that what you say goes. A huge majority of people think NC is funny. You don't think he is. So you claim all of those people are somehow wrong since it doesn't mesh with what you like. A figurative million people laughing at NC against your one "BAWWW!! MY HIGHLY REFINED COMEDIC TASTES DO NOT APPROVE!!", yet you insist ALL of them are wrong.

    Sure smells like pretentious douchebaggery in here. Neither view is wrong; everything is subjective. You wouldn't think anyone would like being shit on, but hey, some do. Try realizing the world doesn't revolve around you champ and maybe you will see that it's probably YOU that has the oddball opinion on what's funny, not the other way around.

    That said, I do mostly agree with you. The only thing I like on that site are his NC sketches and the videogame bartender guy, and I think it's mostly the subject matter that makes it funny, not him. Everything else from him is pretty bland. The rest of the people on that site...good lord. Saw 30 seconds of Spoony and some other chick and that was all I could take. Terrible.

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  92. Lolcats, you act like I don't present an argument for two paragraphs but then completely agree with my thesis. I guess I'm a little confused. I didn't claim anyone was wrong and the vast majority of the world has no idea who the Nostalgia Critic is, and this very comment thread seems to indicate not everyone believes everything he's ever done deserves a 4.95/5. Not only that, but nowhere do I say anyone is wrong: I said the Nostalgia Critic sucks, which is a very different argument, and the evidence I included in this post isn't trying to prove anyone wrong, it's trying to prove the guy sucks. I totally understand there are morons in the world who find references and flailing an acceptable substitute for comedy. Again, this thread proves it.

    And it's hilarious unintentional irony that in the same paragraph where you pull out the old "everything is subjective" concept you argue (based on no evidence, 'natch) that I must be the one with the screwy opinion. Because... I know what I'm talking about? I can articulate why something is bad and then show how it's bad, so my opinion is *less* valuable? "It's all subjective, but you're probably wrong." Also I like the bit about the world revolving around me, since I said absolutely nothing about myself in this rant besides "what really bugs me" about his (awful) review that I stumbled across while writing a far superior review. In what alternate universe is that being egocentric? It's having an opinion: and you're the guy that, apropos of nothing, attacks me for having an opinion and two seconds later agrees with it!

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  93. Wait, how are Bum Reviews and Ask that guy "cliched"?

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  95. A better question: What about bum review and ask that guy are unique and original humor?

    And whether or not they are cliche, they are still terrible attempts at comedy. Making up (cringe-worthy)"funny" answers to questions and summarizing movies in a fast, obnoxious voice are the sort of things that you would expect kids to find funny, not adults. I'm sure you could find that sort of humor at any middle school.

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  96. Well I guess the post is wrong then, if they aren't "cliched".

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  97. Oh, don't be a whiny shit. I mean, I don't like SNL, but other people do. I'm not going to analyze their humor and bitch them out about oh, they're not funny, and oh, they have no taste. I know what I don't like is what someone else probably loves.

    Arguing over things that are subjective is just sooo fucking pointless. You know your point will only get across to those who already agree with you.

    I mean, you obviously know that NC has a lot of fans that enjoy his humor, and you probably know a lot of people who don't. What you said you didn't like, I greatly enjoyed! We know it's not your brand of humor, but by god, it's mine! You don't like how this guy has to be the star of the show? That's what I particularly enjoy!

    I mean, what was the whole point of this article? You already knew everything I just said! Did you just need some sort of outlet to bitch about how unfunny this guy is? Just go to your friends or something.

    I couldn't even get through your whole article...it was just so whiny, and you don't seem to understand that one's sense of humor (and I say WHAT YOU FIND FUNNY) is subjective. Yes, material may be bland, may be tasteless, and may be vulgar, but people will still find it funny. Because people's sense of humor is SUBJECTIVE. SUBJEEEECTIVVVEEE. It's SUBJECTIVE, DAMN YOU!

    But perhaps there is one thing we can agree on...Twilight is fucking bad literature/film making? Truce?

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  98. Dear Lydia: thank you for taking the time to respond to a blog post more than a year after it was written! I hope you are doing well. Regarding your points re: subjectivity, I'm afraid you must have missed my point in writing this thing. This was not created to "argue" over what people find funny, it was created as an avenue for me to explain *why* I found a performer in a related field to be bad at what he does. This is why I included direct evidence in the form of examples of bad comedy. In the interests of brevity I kept my examples to a minimum, but his site is full of unfunny, legally dubious material to parse through. At no point do I tell anyone what to like. You like thoughtless references and flailing? Good for you.

    This is listed as a "rant" for a reason, people.

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  99. Just because it's a rant doesn't justify the amount of complete fallacies that have been shown here. Judging a guy based on one review which I think a lot of fans would consider one of his shittier ones in all honesty is not a fair analysis of the man. This blog made no attempt to analyse the pros and cons of the Nostalgia Critic other than that the writer doesn't find him funny. Fortunately humour is what we in the real world call a 'subjective' quantity - meaning that your opinion is NOT the truth. And neither is his, but the difference is that people actually listen to his whereas I've never even heard of your amateurish little site.

    And before you try to wish my comment away by calling me some sort of fanboy, don't bother because I find some of his material really unfunny as well. The key word there is 'some', and as I already mentioned, the Masters of the Universe review was one of his weaker efforts. To use that example as a means to say that all his videos suck is childish at best, and to try to convince us that he's not analysing the films when he's constantly bringing up plotholes, paradoxes, moralities and comparisons is absolutely laughable on your account. Believe me though, it's about the only thing laughable about your feeble rant.

    To me, and I think a lot of others, you come across as a jealous punk who's trying to gain a bit of internet celebrity by criticising someone else for doing the same as you're attempting. It didn't work, and you made a complete ass of yourself.

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    1. Exactly! Oh yeah,he only hates him for giving negative reviews to the shit he likes,he said it himself at one part,what an amateur!
      I mean this prick is only judging him by his hatred towards the movies this bitch likes

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  100. Hey Notorious B.I.G.O.T., thanks for writing in! Sorry to break it to you, but my argument isn't fallacious it's efficacious in its intended purpose. It's not fallacious because 1. I'm not trying to make an objective analysis of everything the guy has ever done, and 2. I talk specifically about the problems in his work. This all came out of hearing about this guy after writing my own review, and by comparison his is abysmal. So I can't say I'm particularly jealous of his poor efforts. Again, we've already had the incredibly banal "b-b-b-but humor is subjective" response, so I'm just going to ignore it. You really hurt my feelings by calling my rant "feeble" and saying that my analysis of the NC's jokes wasn't fair, although you seem to admit my examples are not good. It's not a "fair analysis" to say something shitty is representative of shittiness? Also this isn't my job, so in a literal sense, yes I am an "amateur." I review campy movies for fun because I like them, I didn't create a character to exploit a bunch of gen-y-ers nostalgia to try to turn myself into an "internet celebrity" while making questionably legal 30 minute "reviews."

    I hope you recognize the irony in writing a 3 paragraph response to something I wrote a over year ago while telling me how I am a "jealous punk" and how you've never heard of my site. But by all means, check out the rest of the site. I think you'll find they are better than ten Super Bowls.

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    1. "And in comparison his is abysmal" Or you just hate his opinion so you hate his review on the movie you like/hate! Think before fast typing your shit,fuck off you bitchy jealous attention whoring idiot! I bet your reviews are shit especially compared to his!

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  101. I lost hard on the video, I couldn't even get through the theme song. I'd rather listen to cats clawing frantically at a chalkboard while being strangled by dentists' drill wielding mad men.

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  102. Now this IS going to be pretentious and arrogant.

    The humor that TNC provides panders to that internet meme bullshit that only nerds and furries like.

    He certainly knows his audiences, reference internet meme's, drop a few FAILS!, and a stupid face and he can entertain these idiots all day long. The guy's a hack, but he's not dumb, that's his audience.

    See also: Ray William Johnson, Fred, etc, and you'll get the idea.

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    1. That's RWJ retard! You don't have a sense of humor,if i shit out a turd and pissed on it that would be your sense of humor,pissed on shit,that's you. "Drop a few FAILS!" And you call us idiots,you retarded internet sheep GO FUCK YOURSELF DIPSHIT!

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  103. Okay, I'm sorry, but I really think everybody who wrote anything here is a pretentious asshole.

    I think the Internet needs more people telling stupid jokes, and less people arguing over whether the jokes are stupid or not.

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  104. i totally agree, nutstolgia critic is a flaming faggot who doesnt even "review" movies, he yells out stupid shit for 10 minutes and his lame attempts at humour fail miserably. glad someone has some brains left in this brainless internet cult society to speak up and say how much this guy sucks ass. hes ugly, talentless and extremly obnoxious. someone just shoo this guy seriously.

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    1. Oh look another retard! Look,he is there to make jokes,he said it
      himself! that "stupid shit" is the humor that you don't get into, i mean he just entertains,that's the REAL point. I mean AVGN is loved because he entertains people,not because of what he thinks about anything,same with the critic. I guess you are not just as popular. "Glad someone has some brains left in this brainless internet society" DUDE! ITS THE MOTHERFUCKING INTERNET! Oh yeah,says the guy that spells "Nostalgia" "nutstolgia",yep,i will surely see your mind as the superior! *facepalm*

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  105. @Jobbeybob So by your logic you're a pretentious asshole too, well done!

    NC simply isn't funny and it's getting worse as he keeps going. The one thing that really gets on my nerves is he has no clue about actors.

    Oh sure, he knows about actors he grew up with but beyond that, he fails.

    In The Last Action Hero Review (The movie's point was lost on him, btw) He confuses Art Carney and Robert Prosky and Tom Noonan with Stephen Wright!

    How anybody can confuse Carney with Prosky is beyond me, Noonan and Wright I can understand a little better, but not by much.

    All the in-jokes in LAH totally escape him, he has to analyze it..like it doesn't belong...and the whole time he fails to realize that LAH is a slam on every action movie ever made.

    So, NC is a reviewer who riffs on movies but can't figure out that a action movie he's watching is riffing on other action movies.

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    1. NC is NOT a reviewer who "riffs" (yup genius right there knows everything except PROPER SPELLING) on movies,he is there to make funny jokes,he said it himself. You are just another person that says stuff like its EVERYONES OPINION when it's an opinion of very few people with a shitty ass sense of humor!

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  106. I've never been a fan of Walker's other characters, but I did enjoy many of the Nostalgia Critic episodes, especially the first few dozen (I agree that his quality is decreasing, but he seems to be realising that himself considering he's constantly seeking new gimmicks). I also quite enjoy reviewers like the Brad Jones's "Cinema Snob" character, "Obscurus Lupa" (I don't know her real name) and Lewis Lovhoug's "Linkara" whoes taste of humor I prefer to Walker's.

    And yes, I do actually watch some of these reviews not to have to see the actual films. I honestly don't feel like sitting through an entire Cynthia Rothrock film, a Bruno Mattei film, a Godfrey Ho film or and shot-on-shiteo trash like "Violent Shit" or "Death Nurse" but I find it very amusing to see someone give me a summary of the most interesting parts of those films combined with a bunch of witty remarks. The sketches that are included in some of these reviews may be lame most of the time, but personally I watch mostly to see a summary of these films to increase my knowledge of the worst of the worst in cinema land.

    Now, don't take me wrong here. I do enjoy a bad film here and there. For example, I'm looking quite forward to seeing Noboru Iguchi's Robo-Geisha when I get my hands on a DVD of it and I hope to be able to buy Tommy Wiseau's The Room if it's ever available on a region 2 disk. I just don't consider every bad movie worth spending 2 hours of my time on, especially if they're horribly paced and just not bad enough to be hilarious.

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  107. At least someone agrees with us for once, granted this was June 2009, and now the site has more than just Douglas bitching about "how movies suck", you have a girl, a fat guy, another fat guy, a skinny guy, a fatter guy, a fatter guy with a hat, a fatter guy with glasses, a girl, some girl who has a sick anime obsession, a british guy, and a blob.

    On behalf of the entire website, we are sorry you don't like our reviews, BUT THANKS FOR THE AD REVENUE SUCKER HA HA HA HA!

    At least Ben Lyons hosted Guts, that's saying something.

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  108. How could somebody like the Nostalgia Critic? His videos are the most retarded and unfunniest thing that I´ve ever saw!

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  109. it burns me on the inside that unfunny faggots like him and especialy spoony actualy get ad revenue and make good money out of this bullshit.
    while trying to nut pick movies and try standup jokes...i should make videos when i talk half an hour about a movie like im next to you and make ad money from you watching it lol

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  111. hahahaha nostalgia critic is a fucking fag who thinks he's so cool and so funny but in harsh reality he's just a little bitch boy with a dumb hat.

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  112. this is called your opinion and guess what...my opinion is that your opinion is a piece of shit and your just jealous that your site is full of 40 something year old fags.

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  113. The only members of thatguywiththeglasses I truly hate are Angryjoe and Spoony. They are just too pompous in real life. At least some members are worth watching, like Ericpoweredup, Jesuotaku and Marzgurl, you know, members who are actually honest in their videos and don't shove jokes down our throats/exaggerate their hatred/love of something. (I noticed someone actually bashed JO here. Come on, she's one of the few members who isn't a sellout) Even Linkara deserves some respect for knowing all of his facts and not shoving swearwords in exchange for actual humor.

    As for Doug Walker himself, he seems like a nice guy, but he just hasn't been that funny as of somewhere in the middle of last year. Every now and then, he will upload an NC video worth watching, but for the most part, they're mostly just random clips of unrelated movies because it's convenient or Doug skipping important details because of "time constraints" or some bs like that. I only stick with his videos because the fanboy in me who loved his older stuff keeps bringing me in.

    Something I'm mixed about is his reaction to the mashables. On one hand, I like how he at least admitted that he's not an entrepreneur, but at the same time, I think it would have been much more sportsmanlike to hand the award over to someone much more deserving of it.

    I think where Doug Walker really went downhill was when he stopped treating the Nostalgia Critic as a fun past time and instead turned it into a full-time job. Now it feels as if he's making these videos more because he has and that it has less to do with him actually wanting to make them.

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  114. I also feel it worth noting that in my eyes, Doug's best videos are his old vs. new segments and his top 11 lists. The reason is because these ones always seem to have a great amount of thought put into them and in these, you can tell he's being 100% honest. Yeah, there's the occasional bad joke here and there (The skull joke was just annoying) but you gotta give Doug credit for getting all of the facts in these ones and actually being fair... minus his Chocolate Factory one which I detected a lot of bias in.

    (And back to JO having a "sick" anime obsession... do you see her with blowup dolls of male anime characters that she most likely does it with in her room? No. The only thing she has that I think may be going a little too far is a Yoko costume complete with the trademark gun, but that's not too uncommon for the usual Otaku, although I only collect plushies, and even those I have very few of)

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  115. Thank god for this. I can't stand Nostalgia Critic and all the douchers he's connected with.
    My problem is that they call themselves critics.
    A critic is someone like Roger Ebert, who ACTUALLY reviews films.
    All Nostalgia Critic does is make fun of them.
    That's all. He doesn't deserve any credibility.
    Elvira is a classic example of one who makes fun of bad movies - I love her. She does a great job at it, and she never once called herself a critic.

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  116. dude you're stupid, nostalgia critic is awesome! Yeah, you apparently chose his worst video with the Melvin thing, way to set up a straw man and tear it apart. Not a very professional way to review a reviewer.

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  117. Okay some problems: if you start insulting people or denigrate some of the people who post against you, you take away all the intelectual or rational part of it. Second if you use his worst video (which everybody agrees in being unfunny) you are being biased, if you use the ones who are considered his best THEN you are getting somewhere (which is also the evidence you used). Third how is he not going to be the star of his own show? Besides he concentrates a lot in the movie or whatever. "But please don't post 15 minute videos of yourself mocking the bad movie while showing off your improv skills" he tries or at least tried to review the movies, maybe his inclined to mocking it but he delivers more than that and you can agree with him a lot and points many flaws. And although you tried to support what you said and the guy isnt perfect and is going slowly downhill, is based ALOT in opinion because it is your opinion. Also obviously the guy has alot of unfunny moments, but that doesnt mean he isnt generally enteartaining because if he was people would have find him entartaining right? I mean hardly anyone likes sonichu etc. Whats bad stay generally hated by the audiences and stays unfamous (most of the time), you need something to grab people in, which personally i think this the guy has.

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  118. Ugh... Comments here make me sick. This is the same damn sthick as with the AVGN. The point of their videos is not REVIEWING. Maybe they say they are but averyone can see that the whole point of the videos are the characters that review and comedy. Watch the reviews at his bum videos, when he reviews out of character. Those are insightfull, credible and have no mocking. THOSE are reviews. As for him mocking movies you like. DEAL WITH IT. I also liked A LOT of movies he's made fun of but that doesn't make him bad or make me even mad. Everyone is inclined to like or dislike movies that others dislike or like. That's like saying I have to like the same brand of cookies just because you think they are terrific. Your whole point is just one big load of nothing.

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  119. I was sitting through your entire text thinking: "Yeah, yeah, you think Doug Walker's timing is bad or that his different characters are the same but come on, spill it! Which shitty movie did he review that you like?" Then you wrote: "but what bugs me is that he's done it at the expense of movies I like." And there we have it. He gives negative response to things you like, that's why he sucks.

    Now, to everyone else that are not reading this comment: Yes, Doug Walker has made some shitty stuff, including the brother of the joker thing but overall, Nostalgia Critic is really funny. I did not really like him to begin with, but when I watched a few videos and got into it, he is really funny.

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    1. Exactly! I mean most of the time he gives bad reviews to movies i like but i still like him,i mean you can't just go hating on someone because they don't think like you!

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  120. Hey,dipshit! He's there to make jokes he said it himself! "Your stupid minds"? More like YOUR STUPID MINDS,don't go all acting like everyone thinks like you!

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  121. "What bugs me is that he's done it at the expense of movies I like." There,you hate him because you are Jonas THE MOTHERFUCKING OPINION HATER! Think first before mindlessly forcing your opinion!

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  122. "But even that would be forgivable if he was actually funny. But he just isn't. Try to sit through this. I dare you." Look you are forcing your sense of humor now! FUCKING ASSHOLE!

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  123. Yeah,my brain exploded because of how annoying and stupid your bitching and winning AKA forcing your opinion and sense of humor was. YOU ARE NOT FAMOUS! Stop trying to get peoples attention,they wont stumble upon you in years! You are just jealous.

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  124. You have the patience of a saint sir. I completely agree that the Nostalgia Critic seems more concerned with marketing himself, obnoxious jokes and all, rather than allowing a "good" bad movie to be the star. His fans, I believe, have crossed over from sycophants to zealots. What's next? Death threats because a man dares to voice a dissenting opinion? No one "forced" you to this website. If you don't like it...leave.

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  125. This guy is an amalgamation of everything I detest.

    I grew up nerdy & awkward as I assume Doug Walker did, the key difference between us is that I realized talking 200 miles a minute and making retardedly exaggerated facial expressions isn't funny.

    And his fucking goatee and his glasses and his stupid fucking hat. He is one of those nerds who embraced their nerdiness to the extreme and is proud of it, like it's a fucking badge of honor.

    I don't even care about what he critiquing, it's the way he goes about it that makes me want to CLAW MY FUCKING EYES OUT OF MY SKULL AND SHOVE THEM INTO MY ASS. FUCK.

    /rant

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  126. A year or two ago I watched Nostalgia Critics "reviews" on a regular basis. I liked him at first. Thought he was pretty entertaining in small doses. But the more I watched the more I began to dislike the guy. Little things annoyed me at first. His whiny voice. His enormous teeth. Then I watched some Q and A's with him at various cons because I thought "why the hell does an internet reviewer have a panel at a con?" And he came off as an arrogant egotistical douche. Plain and simple. He acted like the nostalgia critic is an american icon and household name that just reeks of brilliant comedy. A lot of these internet celebrities just need to get knocked off their pedestal. You want to film yourself reviewing a game or movie or something? Go right ahead. But to act like you're truly doing a huge service to the world is just ridiculous. If I ever ran into Doug Walker, I wouldn't fight the dude or anything. I don't have a personal vendetta against him. But I'd rip him a new asshole verbally. Not that it matters. That guy makes a living off his silly website with all of his introverted socially awkward "friends". I've seen some of their videos too. Some of them look so damn uncomfortable in front of a camera it's funny. He can keep doing whatever he's doing. I can't stop him. I don't see his appeal.

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  127. His voice is grating, and his jokes are bad.

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  128. I like the Nostalgia Critic but I respect your opinion. I prefer the Cartoon Hero over the Nostalgia Critic because I think he's fairer, especially in his later reviews; even when he reviews movies he hates to the core, he tries to point out things in those movies that are good – Nostalgia Critic does that very rarely. He's also much calmer than the Nostalgia Critic, but at this point I'm just rambling.

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  129. I couldn't read all 100+ replies, just wanted to say that NC is playing a character, just like Cinema Snob. By telling people to avoid movies, guess who's going to see them? People like me, that enjoy B-movies. I'd hate to think what you think of my s****y character from my blog. He's an asshole, but that's not me. That's me watching bad movies and loving every minute of it but pretending it's excruciating. Piranha 2, though, (the one with Lance Henrickson) that's one I can't ever get myself to watch a 4th time to review it. That was awful.

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  130. Oh and his return to the NC is abysmal. Having to shoehorn in those terrible actors he hired when he bought a "studio" and now he can't do his precious Demo Reel, good god I can't stand this crap. Just kill the NC and go do your stupid Demo Reel. I'll continue not watching anything on your site.

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  131. I also am not going to read all 150 replies here, but need to say a couple of things....

    First of all, there is only ONE reason that anybody should have for despising the NC, and it
    should be glaringly obvious..... That guys voice!!! Its HORRIBLE!!!! Like 100 cats claws
    on a 100 chalkboards recorded through microphones and blasted through a one million watt
    speaker!!!!! I cant get past 3 seconds of that guys voice. period, end of discussion. and
    there isn't any comeback for that, everyone knows it is true, even his biggest fans, which must be mostly deaf..

    also, the best movie reviewer of all time is James Rolfe from http://cinemassacre.com(he also does AVGN).
    James reviews are funny, knowledgeable, and entertaining. I personally think his AVGN character
    is nothing compared to him just being himself. and most importantly, his voice sounds like
    buttery buttery spread over molasses, lol. also, during his reviews, you never see him, just a
    voice over, as it should be.
    this is one of his better reviews: http://cinemassacre.com/2010/10/13/inframan/

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  132. I was just messing around on his website, since I only have seen the NC on YouTube, and watched some of his other guys video, like angry Joe, and found their voices SHRILL and ear piercing as well, along with being plain annoying. But I think I figured out the biggest fatal flaw, when these guys are recording the videos, they must be using the cheapest sound recording equipment. I know not everypne likes the AVGN, but at least he(James Rolfe) went to film school, and if you are a fan like me, and watched all of his work multiple times, he does one "making of.." video, which shows behind the scenes of a episode, and also he goes over his equipment, one of which is a 3000 dollar boom mic jacked into a 10,000 dollar camera, which has to make a huge difference. I think the NC and his crew just use the mic attached to the camera, which makes an already annoying voice sound worse. also, James(the AVGN) uses a recording studio quality mic when doing the voice over parts, which makes hid sound even better.

    OK, you think this doesn't matter, right, the NC is still funny, and maybe he cant afford that kinda stuff. well, it matters to me, and I, nor my ears, can take it. Ill leave him for the hearing impaired.....

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  133. Uhmmm.... Do you morons realize that Nostalgia Critic is a character? The character is supposed to be a bitter loser who can't get over stuff from his childhood. That's the joke.

    My god, the level of idiocy on display here is astounding.

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    1. Uhmmmm..... Do you realize that when a person has only ONE CHARACTER, that it's NOT a character, and is, in fact, the person himself?

      Bitter loser who can't get over stuff from his neglected childhood is not a joke, it's his reality.

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  134. I really don't know what people see in this guy... he's annoying as hell. If the Nostalgia Critic is a character... then it's time to change that character because he's not funny, smart or entertaining in anway.

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  135. My problem with the Nostalgia critic has nothing to do with the movies he reviews, the supposed character or any of that because there are other similar 'characters' I actually can watch. NC's problem is he's just NOT.FUCKING.FUNNY. and that's pretty much it. He's not funny. His voice is irritating, he tries waaaay too hard, his comedic timing is non existent and there isn't one interesting or unique thing about what he does. It's one of life's great mysteries why this guy has such a dedicated following. I can totally see why people like the Angry Video Game Nerd, he bashes some games that I like, but most of his reviews make me laugh and he has a lot of other really interesting content on his website. Nostalgia Critic though... it's like watching a desperate, obnoxious kid fight for attention.

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  136. Now, now, everybody, let's all calm down now. Let's all respect each other and just acknowledge that some people like the NC and others do not. Let's just leave the NC as he is and not complain. :D

    P.S. The AVGN is the Nostalgia Critic's friend, and they are extremely alike. Both have foul language, both get extremely mad at both bad games and movies, both wear glasses, both can go on rants and both of them are humans.

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    1. The only thing they have in common is subject material; mentally, they are on separate continents.

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  137. This nostalgia critic guy is such an unintelligent hubristic bag of dicks, it's amazing he hasn't gotten it beaten out of him by reality yet. What level of retarded does one need to be to look UP to this guy, and find him in any way amusing? For me it's not just the fact that he's unfunny, and it's not the just the fact that he has cerebral capacity of a 4th grader, and it's not just the fact that he comes off like a spoiled attention whore-- it's the fact that he has nothing but hate and vitrol and criticism to offer. Most people who do reviews actually LIKE movies, this douche just seems like he hates everything. NO ONE wants to listen to some bitter piece of neglected-by-mommy shit do nothing but complain about stuff. Please get your ass kicked by someone, and please let it get filmed and posted to youtube-- maybe that way you can finally get the fame you've always wanted, and we can all go home happy.

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  138. I think what irritates me a little bit about the Nostalgia Critic is--ironically--his favoritism towards his own nostalgia when he /does/ do a legitimate review (such as in Charlie and the Chocolate Factory versus Willie Wonka and The Chocolate Factory) combined with the fact he outright lies about some things in the Nostalgia Critic rants about the subject in question to make them sound stupider when they did have actual reasoning to occur.

    The first example to come to mind was the rant he did on Godzilla (1998), top of my head being the part where he comments about 'Godzilla magically revives himself'. Now what actually happened was that while the torpedo did hit Godzilla in the footage he showed, he neglected to show or mention the scene in the movie afterward where Godzilla shrugged it off and kept moving after being briefly knocked out. He does it again mere minutes later about the chase scene between the protagonists and Godzilla, where he reverses the footage of Godzilla biting the car and picking it up, commenting about how they just magically escaped when what actually occurs in the movie is Nicolas grabbing one of the electric cables now hanging loose from the car and shoving it into Godzilla's gum.

    Hitting back on the chocolate factory debate, it ended in a 4-to-1 loss for Charlie, and three of those points the critic himself stated he gave to Wonka on basis of nostalgia and that 'nothing can beat the original', even if it technically did on some accounts.

    To sum it up: My problems are basically that he has to rely on misleading statements and evidence to make somewhat mediocre movies seem worse than they really are as /well/ as having personal bias in his actual reviews.

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  139. guys this was posted in 2009 so they don't know how awesome he is now

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  140. Everybody has their opinion and their own thoughts. Fanboys stop being overprotective. Haters don't overreact so much with your hate. I like the nostalgia critic but he is not the best youtuber in the world. People just grow up and stop starting flamewars over a youtube channel!

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  141. I actually Googled "Nostalgia Critic Annoying" just to see if anyone shared my opinion. I dont hate all this guys opinions or even some of (notice I said some of) his jokes. But his need to insert himself into everything and do little skits and voices... having to hear that high pitched annoying screeching voice over and over again. And I know this is wrong to say, but seeing this dorky balding wire rim glasses wearing idiot prancing and acting and thinking he is such hot stuff really bothers me. I dont think anybody wants to look at him. Even his mother. I wish he was not so friggin corny and obnoxious and over the top because I would actually like to watch some of the videos. To see what I am talking about (and I only watched 2 of his videos so this is probably not the worst offense) watch LORD OF THE RINGS ANIMATED VS MOVIE. I made it to the part where he does GOLLUM DEBATING OVER WHICH COCA-COLA IS BETTER. It was actually painful. I dont know how anybody could not cringe watching this. The second video I watched was AIRBORNE. Which I love and wanted to see it discussed. Not this idiots stand up rountine. I really dislike this guy

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  142. Just because you don't like him, doesn't mean someone is forcing you to watch his stuff. If you feel the need to really speak your opinion, tell people who actually are interested. Because 95% of the time, nobody on the internet is going to care about your opinion, that doesn't mean you are wrong. But just keep in mind, this doesn't make you right either. And saying he is not "funny" is subjective, because not everyone has the same taste of comedy as you. You are coming off as very pretentious with your comments about "all the human race is going to shit" just because it doesn't like the same shit you like. Get over it and just avoid the things you don't like. like the plague, now shut the fuck up.

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  143. Life's too short to waste time criticizing people you don't know, who've found a niche and are happy with their lives and modest, even minimal, levels of success. What a luxury it is to sit in front of a computer and argue about someone who talks about media, be it reviewing it, poking fun at it, or otherwise... other human beings struggle to exist, women are oppressed and raped, people with different religious and political ideologies want to blow the living shit out of each other, but man, that Nostalgia Critic sucks.

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  144. Interesting that this is still being debated. Not even the staff of the site is answering anymore. XD

    What the post failed to see when it first was written, is not that Doug Walker is a talentless, pretentious, ungrateful and unfunny jerk (ask many people who have worked with him) but that he isn't aiming his videos at people in his age group. He aims to entertain 13 year olds who don't know better. He always has.

    Ask people over twenty who used to watch him and most of them will tell you they just don't find him entertaining anymore. His attach rate is miserable and he's only around because there's always a new supply of teenager who find out about him and, like the prevoius round of teens, they don't know better and think he's funny when he's not.

    And let's not forget he tried to retire the character once, but his next project failed so hard he almost went broke, which forced him to "revive" the Nostalgia Critic character. Lesson learned? He's a talentless thirty something that hit it big with one single thing and can't let go of it because otherwise he'd end up flipping burgers at McDonalds.

    I *am* surprised he is still around when his whole shtick is to sit in front of a cammera and scream shit at clips from old movies, however. At this point I'm simply waiting how long he and the rest of talentless posers (Angry Joe for example) from Channel Awesome can be around before age makes them look too ridiculous (Linkara comes to mind) for the things they do.

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    1. Thank you for actually having a brain. The NC is unfunny, and goes on and on with his "I remember it so you don't have to" line. But if you do a little reading and digging you find that he wouldn't remember it either. He was born in Italy in the mid 80's. So, most of the things he talks about he wouldn't know about being from Naples, Italy. He wouldn't know about the fads like wacky wall walkers, or pet rocks. He does a little reading, and then goes on to a rant that is just flush with mistakes. He knows little to nothing about the material he's reviewing. Eventually, that 15 minutes of fame will tap out. Especially, when the hipster fad finally dies.

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  145. Envy losers of the internet, unite in the comments of this crappy article!

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  146. What OP wrote back in 2009 is so true. All those years this bitching pussy named Doug Walker is spreading his idiocy among the clueless masses of teenagers. I watched only two of his videos to know that despite the effort he's full of shit and has nothing in common with a proper critic, everything he does is only for lulz, just to stay in touch with his silly non-demanding audience. Thus, the pseudo nostalgia bitch shouldn't call himself a critic. Can't believe how so many idiots fall for this fraud. He's stated Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome was his favorite MM movie (which only clueless idiot would state) and Fury Road is BETTER than Road Warrior. WHAT A FUCKING CLUELESS FRAUD.

    Youtube is the beehive for idiots like him. I bet they think they're making money selling honey but in reality its they are like walking and talking human piles of shit. Amazingly, this shit attracts a lot of flies who feed on it.

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  147. "Meeeeeh Duh Crytik sux cuz he makes fun of movi3s i liiek! Wahhhhh". lol How much of a pathetic oversensitive, douche do you need to be to spew bullshit like this? Get a life, retard.

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    1. Says the person who apparently felt the need to Google a YouTube guy who was last relevant 5 years ago in order to comment on an article written 7 1/2 years ago.

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    2. Says the person who also felt the need to google a 7 year old article in order to reply to comments bashing it.

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    3. Nostalgia Critic = Pure autism.

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  148. An interesting read, but there are a couple of things I'd like to say in defence of the Nostalgia Critic (yes, I still watch it, crucify me)

    1. The article talks about how many of the campy films are good to laugh at, and I agree. In fact, "making fun of bad movies is great[..] but they weren't the goddamn stars" kind of sums up the channel: It's built upon the same concept of making fun of bad movies, and while they're sometimes more about him, take it as a case-by-case basis, and don't hold up what's probably 30% of his videos as evidence the whole channel is bad.

    2: Humour is subjective. This has already been in multiple other comments, and it always boils down to it being bad for the same reason Family Guy is bad. References are being brought up without any thing creative being done with them. I actually agree, referential humour is often done lazily without any creative twist being put on the reference, but these are 4 or 5 people making 30 minutes of content every week online, whilst Family Guy is a multinational billion dollar animated series that takes a massive team of Korean animators a year to finish one episode of. When the worst you have to say about this ad-supported web series is that it falls into the same traps as this billion-dollar franchise, that's nothing short of an achievement!

    3. This is after the publication of the article, but in recent years Doug has been starting the charity shoutouts after episodes end, and began the Adventure Time vlogs and vlogs for other shows, and it fixes all of the issues stated here. No screaming, no trying to hard to be funny, and no unfair criticism because he thinks he's better than it. It's a nice feel-good atmosphere and I almost prefer it to the main NC nowadays. It proves that behind the stardom he's just an honest guy doing what makes him happy.

    4. We're talking about a Youtube channel here. Screaming, trying too hard to be funny, and bad character acting (which I won't defend: I hated the Hocus Pocus review) are staples of Youtube, and in all of these instances, there are MUCH larger fish to fry than the Nostalgia Critic, including channels with larger reaches.

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